tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8035244062520832583.post2225532649396853291..comments2024-03-21T05:39:38.636-04:00Comments on Tango Therapist: Logotango: Tango with personal meaningTango Therapisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12548118004604256736noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8035244062520832583.post-72045122181864261112011-09-01T02:08:02.794-04:002011-09-01T02:08:02.794-04:00Addendum to Deidre: I just went to your web page. ...Addendum to Deidre: I just went to your web page. Fascinating! I have much to learn from you. Today's blog may present a better balance to the Yin side of things: <br><br>http://tango-beat.blogspot.com/2011/09/tango-and-music-of-spheres.htmlTango Therapisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12548118004604256736noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8035244062520832583.post-15637724410976337602011-09-01T00:39:54.364-04:002011-09-01T00:39:54.364-04:00Querida Deidre: Your comments will have me thinki...Querida Deidre: Your comments will have me thinking about this a long time. For one, I just do not understand what you mean! I think of yin/yang as being both circular, rotating (dancing) around each other, not as separate concepts. But I am sure that in this area I have much to learn. Assuming that you are right that logotango as I have presented it is is a masculine view, I guess I would have that right as a male writer. The majority of tango blog writers are female and they have their own special way. But is your analysis fair that my thoughts on tango-with-meaning are "linear"? If my personal "logos" (meaning) in tango is the embrace being fully given, the absolute surrender to the music, and the sharing of spontaneous improvisation that is inspired by both partners, is that Yang/Masculine/linear? I would hope this concept is a balanced (yinyang)perspective. Perhaps what I have said is unbalanced, so you can help me understand. Please email me. Second, please do not assume that I think these things while dancing! :-) But after having a great tanda we can say "wow" and that is about as deep as we get with words, or we can come up with words to describe a tanda that looks beyond a single word. "Wow" by the way, is perfectly good on the dance floor. Perhaps my "wow" in this blog became too intellectual, but "wow" or other longer statements about "wow" sometimes miss important reasons why a tanda felt so good and went so deeply into our soul. Lastly, your point about taking these ideas of healing to the dance floor: If you hold me and fully accept me, hear the music, and playfully accept the interplay of improvisational tango, perhaps I will feel a wonderful therapeutic effect. Then you will have unwittingly brought "therapy" [wholeness] to the "pista" -- I am sure that you do this. Ask a few of your partners who love to dance with you, and you will see. Ask: "Would you describe the feeling of a great tanda as a sense of wholeness?" Their answers may surprise you. I wish you more than wow-tango. I wish you a life of logotango.Tango Therapisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12548118004604256736noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8035244062520832583.post-76464641192032330862011-08-31T15:53:43.847-04:002011-08-31T15:53:43.847-04:00I find this a very Yang/masculine/linear way ofloo...I find this a very Yang/masculine/linear way of<br>looking at tango. I experience tango in a much more Yin/feminine/circular way.......... and I am not talking about gender here.<br><br>If I had all that in my head when I danced I would miss the joy present moment - certainly miss the pleasure of the embrace and feeling the music through my partner's body. <br><br>Thanks for the blogs, I really enjoy them. I am also a therapist and you certainly make me think........ just don't want to do it on the piste.Deirdrehttp://www.healthtouch1.co.uknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8035244062520832583.post-32902499002926280642011-08-31T13:48:52.403-04:002011-08-31T13:48:52.403-04:00@Cassiel: No worries about tango being suggested a...@Cassiel: No worries about tango being suggested as a "substitute" for professional therapy. Therapists are doing important work helping many people, and many people rely on tango for too much good in their lives. Balance is everything. However, "therapy" does not belong to professionals alone. "Therapeo" is the word "to heal" in Greek. The word in Greek has a sense of "wholeness." Your concern is EXACTLY the negative psychological perspective that Frankl fought against. The present philosophical "Reich" in the "mental health" industry has confused us all. This industry would make us all feel that we all struggle with some "illness." Then we all need to go to fix our "sickness." Frankl indeed believed in therapy by professionals, but started with what is right with people and built from there. This is positive psychology. Tango brings WHOLENESS to many people. In that way it has meaning and is therapeutic. You are right Sinn (in German) means "Logos" in Greek. Sinnvol means meaningFUL. Sinn should FILL everything we do -- family, friends, work and even tango. And that is what Logotango is. Don't be surprised if you tell a professional therapist about how much you love tango and how much time you dedicate to it, that he might tell you that you are "addicted" to tango. I hope if this happens you (or anyone!)return to this article and consider the alternative: Tango brings wholeness and meaning to your life and tango is therapeutic not an "illness."Tango Therapisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12548118004604256736noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8035244062520832583.post-56070752327733765682011-08-31T12:01:51.803-04:002011-08-31T12:01:51.803-04:00Thanks for sharing your very interesting thougts. ...Thanks for sharing your very interesting thougts. I'm not sure wheter I would appreciate transfering psychlogical ideas so deep into tango.<br><br>I know (and admire) <i>Victor Frankl</i> - he gave hope to people in a hopeless situation (the concentration camps in Nazi-Germany) by just mentioning the word <i><b>Sinn</b></i> (that is in my opinion the nearest german translation of <i>logos</i> in this context).<br><br>I'm not sure if it is wise to operate with this ideas in tango. Well, tango is more than movement but is it a substitute for therapy?<br><br>Just my two cents<br><br>c.<br><br>(Sorry for my English - I'm not trained. :-( And... I really enjoy your brilliant blog!!!)cassielhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09358837599599618837noreply@blogger.com